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M1CXF	Rating:	2015-05-27
nice and easy to use			Time Owned: more than 12 months.
I have a 90 and use this system regularly. I also have a 92 and a 51 and this system is so much easier to use

N1FDX	Rating:	2010-04-16
Works good for me.			Time Owned: more than 12 months.
This is my second time around with the T90A. I had one in the past sold it for a 91A and went back to the T90a because I just enjoyed the simplicity of the radio. The reciever was far better than the 91a. As for the software, I use it with a serial cable and it seems to work great ever time. Very simple to use, quick upload and downloads. A must have if you like take advantage of your memories and banks. I guess it could have done a little better jib on moving entries around but overall works OK for me. http://home.comcast.net/~n1fdx

KE7CPK	Rating:	2007-04-03
YUK			Time Owned: more than 12 months.
GOT A NEW LAPTOP NOW NONE OF MY SOFTWARE WORKS AND HAVE TO BUY NEW. NO UPDATES. NOT ME TIME TO SELL THE T90 FOR SOME THING THAT WORKS

K5ADF	Rating:	2007-04-03
Minimal Software			Time Owned: more than 12 months.
I have both a T81A and a T90 (as well as a 91 A/D). It just worked out that way as I am not necessarily an ICOM fan. I have the PC cable that works for both the T81 and T90. However it has a 9 pin RS232 end. My laptop (old) has a DB9 connector so it works fine. My desktop computer (much newer) does not have a DB9 connector. I solved the problem by purchasing a DB9 to USB converter that not only passes the signals but provides the power required (important) via USB and it works. I am using a Keyspan USB to serial converter. As for the software for the T90, it leaves much to be desired. ICOM should be flogged for sending out such a poor product. It does work, but this is not 1995 anymore! It is difficult to use requiring many keystrokes just to program and documentation is non-existent for all practical purposes. It is better than trying to remember all those key strokes on the T90 to program it, but just barely. I will say that communication between the T90 and the PC always works at least for me. I suggest you purchase a Keyspan USB to serial converter and leave the ICOM converter alone.

KJ7YL	Rating:	2006-01-16
T90			Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
The OPC 478 is not just a couple of jumpers. The cable can be used on all of the newer model ICOM Radio's. You can also put an stereo to mono plug on the cable and use it for a CIV control cable for your ICOM HF radios alot cheaper than a CT17. I recently won a radio at the Seapac Hamfest. Kenwood sells thier cable for 30 dollars or so. The software was a free download off of the Kenwood site. I sold my T90 because I had to many radios.

KC0ORP	Rating:	2005-05-02
Functional. Better than by hand.			Time Owned: 0 to 3 months.
The basic mission of cloning/programming software is to provide san alternative to programming radios by hand, a sometimes daunting task, condidering my dexterity. This software accomplishes the basic task of programming the Icom T90 well. There are some limitations to the software, and it is quite expensive relative to it's utility. I used the USB cable interface (ICOM OPC 478U), and had no difficulty loading drivers (provided), and connecting to the radio. Installing the software was also simple, and there were no suprises. Reading and writing from the T90 went rapidly (about two minutes) with no errors. The interface is simple- perhaps too simple for some users. There is no drag and drop between memory locations. To insert a freq into a memory channel, you must first insert a line (by right-clicking on the memory channel after the channel you wish to insert to), copy the data from another memory location, then clear the copied location's memory channel(the one you copied from). The channel numbers will then automatically renumber after you do this. This, and and the fact that you cannot sort channels by frequency, name , etc, is the major limitation of this software. I suspect that the reason this was done in this fashion is for simplicity and reliability. When writing code, simple and reliable is better. If maddening as hell for some users... Remember, it IS better than doing it by hand. Almost all the commands of the various 'set' menus are also available, a very nice feature. For me, this is a major plus. Bonus- the contents of the VFO's are also available, sometimes cached four back! This allowed me to recall data for a local station that I had forgotten. The second drawback is price. Software, cable, shipping and handling came to $76.85 from Universal Radio, the best price that I could find. Universal shipped to me in about three days, and was easy to deal with. $77 is pretty steep, though (not Universal's fault). The cable ($45.00) can be used for my other Icom radios, and is not the pricing problem- the software is. With the low volume of customers purchasing the software, I suspect the cost-per-customer is quite steep. I am the customer, though, and the price of the sotware should be reduced to about ten to twelve bucks (from a list of $40.00, retail). I paid $27, about double what the value of the software was to me. Knowing hams, Icom requires a key code to unlock the software. My next radio to consider software for is the IC-208H, with my gazillion frequencies plugged into it. The software appears to be the same price... I'll review when I get it. Wally, KC0ORP

KD5ZBX	Rating:	2004-03-19
Better than manual			Time Owned: 3 to 6 months.
When I got my T90A, the software was backordered so I had to wait a few weeks to get it. It's worth the wait. Sure, the interface is 'conservative' (ok, a little clunky) but it's far better than reprogramming the darned thing manually. I use it to preconfigure repeater configurations (codes) before going on road trips. The best part is that this makes it a lot easier to reorder frequencies in the channel banks. Try inserting a frequency in the middle of a group of 50 channels by hand... and relocating the upper 25.... So, it's good. And despite what one of the previous reviewers said about the OPC cable, it's more than a DB9 shell with a couple wires in it. There's some silicon in there in a square DIP package. I'd expect it's an isolation circuit. As delicate as the guts of a T90A seem to be, a little extra protection from the serial port on your PC is cheap insurance.

KB9QNG	Rating:	2004-02-08
Save your money!! JUNK!!			Time Owned: 3 to 6 months.
The software is not user friendly,you spend hours programming the software and then you find out that you can not save it to a cd or floppy!!what a pain in the ---, I have tryed everything to save all the hard work I put into it,and to find out I can not save it is very disappointing.If anybody has a way to save the work to a cd or floppy PLEASE let me know.You are better off programming it manually. If you are in the market for this software try to find somebody that has it maybe they will let you borrow it--DON'T waste you hard earned money.

KD7KGX	Rating:	2003-11-30
Works as expected, makes programming easy			Time Owned: 6 to 12 months.
I don't know what was wrong with an earlier poster's software, but I do know that my T90 software from Icom works as expected and is MUCH easier to use for programming than doing it by hand on the HT. I purchased the software and cable after I had owned the T90 for a month, and uploaded the radio's contents to the program, rearranged the manually-programmed channels to banks that made sense for me, and downloaded them back again. Since then I have used the software several times and it has never failed to work as expected. I'd really give it a 4.5, because it could use some ease-of-use features when quickly duplicating channels... but that's just nit-picking. It works and works well. The only drawback is the one in common with ALL Icom accessories... the software and cable are about 50% higher in price than they should be. If you have a T90 and want to get the most from it, then I would heartily recommend this software.

W7RJR	Rating:	2003-11-29
Works just fine			Time Owned: more than 12 months.
I have found this software to work just fine, not difficult to learn or use. It's basically a spreadsheet workalike and shouldn't take much brain power to figure out how to use it. I never even read the instruction booklet. Does ICOM charge too much for their accessories? YES, but they all work just fine.

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Status:	Closed	Start date:	02/16/2013
Priority:	Normal	Due date:
Assignee:	-	% Done:	100%
Category:	-
Target version:	-
Chirp Version:	0.3.0	Equipment Loan Offered:	Yes

Description

Would appreciate this radio being added to those working with CHIRP. If no one has one to work with, I'll make mine available in May when I return to Newport, OR. I can supply an icf file now.
Thanks
barry@k7baw.us

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Updated by Ryan Lovettabout 8 years ago

Also happy to immediately loan an IC-T90A.

Cheers.

Updated by Kevin Jamesover 7 years ago

Volunteer for testing - adding to the request for additional support

Updated by Christopher Suleskeover 7 years ago

Adding my name and rig to the roster of T90a owners who'd like it working with CHIRP.

Updated by Christopher Suleskeover 7 years ago

I found this substantial research:

and a complete (!) memory map:

This is from Eric Behr's NIU site, http://www.math.niu.edu/~behr/Ham/

An overview of his work on the T90A:

Programming the ICOM T90A

I'm trying to figure out computer programming of the T90A. It does have this ability (with optional cable and software), but in the spirit of DIY I'd like to avoid buying extra stuff. Here is what I found out so far. [Added 1/9/2004] I just discovered a boatload of information on BlakkeKatte's page. [Added 1/11/2008] An IC-T90A memory map courtesy of Michael Gantz.

Combining some plans available out there, I built my own level converter ('kind-of RS-232' to/from TTL). It seems to work, i.e. it passes data on between the computer and the handheld. E.g. after telling the ICOM to clone, I can see that data in TeraTerm (PC) and ZTerm (Mac). But it's still a mystery to me how one puts this radio into programming mode. It's either a secret key combination (like the one for cloning), or a special ICOM CI-V command. No matter what I tried, the transceiver doesn't react to it, and nobody replied to my Usenet query with anything useful.

So far I've been underwhelmed by the public domain software used for controlling rigs. The authors are doing a great public service, so I shouldn't complain, but I haven't found any software that would fit the bill. I might take the plunge and try to roll my own somehow, except I only have a crappy Belkin F5U109 USB to serial adapter, and it doesn't work with OS X (shame on Belkin for not providing drivers!)

Updated by Christopher Suleskeover 7 years ago

I am now working on rolling a programming cable. I've successfully made ones for the Baofeng UV-3R and UV-5R from this exact CP-2102 USB board:

Using this board (I got 5 off eBay for like $8) and the following instructions:

Icom T90a Programming Software Manual

(Scroll to the last section for the 2102 board.) I've been unable to connect with the T90A via the Icom CS-90 software. Any suggestions on building an OPC-478 clone with this CP-2102 board? I'm about ready to spend the $12 or so and get one prefab on eBay.

Updated by David Jamabout 7 years ago

Barry Winters wrote:

I too would be very happy if Chirp could be made to work with the IC-T90A.
The Icom software is terrible, when it come to adding data.
David

Updated by Christopher Suleskeover 5 years ago

Though I've relented and acquired a few Baofengs, I'd still like to get the Icom T90A working with CHIRP. I had done a good bit of research a couple of years ago (see above) and could take some form of lead for this if I were guided. I don't know anything (yet) about the CHIRP programming interface, but I can learn if guided. I would start with the info I posted above and couple that with a scheme to modify one or more of the existing (working) Icom profiles. Anyone who can point me in the right direction, please contact me. Thanks! Chris NM2S

Updated by Bob Jonasalmost 3 years ago

Has any progress been made on the use of CHIRP on the ICOM T90A HT??
Thank you

Updated by Christopher Suleskealmost 3 years ago

Alas, I do not believe so. I keep an eye on this thread and, as you can see, nothing appears to have happened in several years. I still have my trusty T90A. It's been a while since I attempted to program it. I would have to find a cable and the computer with the Icom software. I'm not sure I ever got that working, as I didn't want to buy an expensive cable for an obsolete rig.

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 2 years ago

Hi, I have IC-E90 it's european model of IC-T90. I guess both are nearly the same and differ only in defaults for bands and repeater tones. I would like to add support for it to Chirp. Does anybody have the memory maps mentioned in comment 4? Both URLs are now down and I am unable to find it elsewhere on the internet. Could you re-upload / provide it to me? It would speed me up. 73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 2 years ago

Icom T90a Programming Software Update

Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:

After cca. hour of hacking (currently I am on vacation on the beach, so I cannot give it more time :) I am able to clone the memory map in and out. It's simply ICF (so lot of the Chirp code can be reused) and my clones match the ICF saved from the original Icom software. Now the harder part - to parse it. I got the memory map mentioned in the comment 4 from the wayback machine snapshot, so hopefully I will be able to create the parser without brute forcing the memory.

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 2 years ago

Now I have working clone in/out, basic channels support (0-499) and banks support. Remaining: call channels, scan edge channels, tv channels, wx channels, settings. Volunteers for testing are welcome :)

Updated by Scott Tolandover 2 years ago

Do you have the code in mercurial, or available elsewhere? I am interested in testing on my T90A and possibly even working to fill in some of the missing functionality.

Thanks and have a great one,

Scott KD2QQK

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 2 years ago

Scott Toland wrote:

Do you have the code in mercurial, or available elsewhere? I am interested in testing on my T90A and possibly even working to fill in some of the missing functionality.

Thanks and have a great one,

Scott KD2QQK

To be honest I haven't touched the code since my late summer vacation :) But I am going to finish it (hopefully during December 2018) and pull request upstream. The support is very very preliminary, I have to:
- rebase the patches to the latest chirp upstream (it's frozen codebase from the September 2018)
- rewrite the patches to use 'bitwise' for cleaner memory parsing, like e.g. uv-3r driver and others use - the current oldschool bit masking/shifting is ugly
- add support for call channels, scan edge channels, TV channels, WX channels, settings

So probably the code is useless at the moment, but if you need to just re-arrange your memory banks/channels, it should work. It's in the icx90 branch:
https://github.com/yarda/chirp

73! Jaroslav, OK2JRQ

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 1 year ago

Another year, another vacation and another coding session on the beach :)

I rewrote the driver the way I wanted, rebased to the latest devel branch, implemented nearly all the features and added test image
http://intrepid.danplanet.com/pipermail/chirp_devel/2019-September/005592.html

It now works with my IC-E90 radio at least (it didn't kill it after some heavy memory edits :) and everything seems to work as expected), feel free to test. There are probably bugs, because the radio is quite complex - I also spotted and reported few CHIRP bugs during the driver development.

Currently the memory bank management isn't the best. If you move channels in memory, you need to edit banks by hand. This is not optimal, but at the moment I don't know how to implement it better - there is probably no support for this on the CHIRP side - I am using its icf bank driver for it.

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 1 year ago

FileIcom_IC-E90.img added

According to communication with Dan I will use this ticket for tracking of inclusion of this new driver into CHIRP.

For the start here is nearly empty memory map which can be used by CHIRP testsuite.

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvadaover 1 year ago

Everybody who is willing to test the new driver and provide feedback can try the icx90 branch from https://github.com/yarda/chirp
The driver should be fully functional now, but I am going do some changes according to upstream review before final posting.

Updated by Jaroslav Škarvada12 months ago

Status changed from New to Closed
% Done changed from 0 to 100

Applied in changeset 105488687f31.

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Updated by Jaroslav Škarvada12 months ago

I deleted the github repo for this driver, because the driver was upstreamed and there is no need for it anymore.

Also the driver has built-in helper for bank management - it's an temporal solution until banks will be fully supported upstream. The idea behind is that you can create so called template file which stores how memory names are mapped to the banks, create it by:

./chirp/drivers/icx90.py -r ICOM_IC-E90.img banks.csv

I.e. it takes the radio memory image ICOM_IC-E90.img (previously stored in Chirp) and writes the channel->bank mappings to the banks.csv.

Icom T90a Programming Software

Then you can start Chirp as usual and arbitrary move your memory content. This will reorder the banks, because the banks are tight to the memory numbers, not the memory names. This is usually what you don't want. When you are done in Chirp use the following command which will reorder the memory names to the appropriate memory banks:

./chirp/drivers/icx90.py -f ICOM_IC-E90.img banks.csv

Then you can upload the IMG to the radio.

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